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Goregrind
Jul 4, 2013 17:12:59 GMT -5
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Post by mortvillenoise on Jul 4, 2013 17:12:59 GMT -5
I'm okay with Ulcerrhoea being labeled goregrind.
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Post by joe on Jul 4, 2013 19:05:09 GMT -5
im pretty sure ulcerrhoea isnt goregrind bro hah the first 3 demos are technically carnal shroud anyway
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Post by grinchx on Jul 4, 2013 20:20:52 GMT -5
im about to take you to task for arguing against Undinism being goregrind when you would consider Ulcerrhoea goregrind given the Line & Row era. ridiculous.
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Goregrind
Jul 4, 2013 20:30:56 GMT -5
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Post by mortvillenoise on Jul 4, 2013 20:30:56 GMT -5
Every one of their releases with the exception of "Line and Row" could be considered goregrind.
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Post by grinchx on Jul 4, 2013 20:39:15 GMT -5
every Undinism release could be considered goregrind and they never had a Line & Row to their credit, so i dont see where you make the distinction
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Goregrind
Jul 4, 2013 21:20:56 GMT -5
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Post by mortvillenoise on Jul 4, 2013 21:20:56 GMT -5
Lyrical content and imagery.
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Post by grinchx on Jul 5, 2013 4:12:12 GMT -5
i think those are good places to make a distinction, yes, but in this case it doesnt apply
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Post by mortvillenoise on Jul 5, 2013 6:21:58 GMT -5
Okay, let's go with song titles then...
Ulcerrhoea:
Exposing Purulent Entrails Disrupted Torso Mutilation Rectal Phlegm & Scepticism Corroding Withered Cadavers Foetal Limbs Dissemized Premated By Maggots Embryonal Vomit Squeezed Cehpalus Ulcerous Recurrence Myoxified & Bloated Fermenting Haemorrhoids
Undinism:
Molest a Retard Teenage Girls Addicted to Penis Kill Gays MS Rape-a-Thon My Tongue is Your Tampon Fart-Filled Athsma Pump Arsehair Toupe' Pimping Parapalegic Prostitutes
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Post by ultracoreglamfuck on Jul 5, 2013 10:57:14 GMT -5
Neil's head was always pretty gory and Magnus has been hemorrhaging huge quantities of blood from his vagina for years so I'd say both count!
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Post by Torch the Mall on Jul 5, 2013 15:06:26 GMT -5
Hey guys, I guess Sanity's Dawn were never goregrind either because their EPs later on, right?
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Post by grinchx on Jul 5, 2013 19:06:29 GMT -5
hey guy, that was never anyone's point. i was aping andy mortville to begin with. read back a page before your next zinger
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Post by Torch the Mall on Jul 6, 2013 8:29:47 GMT -5
I did, as well as the following discussion with Undinism. Don't blame me for your logic not checking out.
I'll just go ahead and mention that I'm playfully being a contrarian. It's not worth some longer, and more so, boring internet argument.
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Post by grinchx on Jul 6, 2013 11:12:32 GMT -5
since you are absolutely begging for a breakdown, my logic is that if Undinism's releases are 100% goregrind but the band is not "considered goregrind", then why would Ulcerrhoea deserve the label when they have lots of releases that are not goregrind (see Line and Row, posthumous comustion ep, splits with sivilimurha, bizarre x, netjajev ss, carnal diafragmia, sewn shut, etc) im not sayin, im just sayin.
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Post by mortvillenoise on Jul 6, 2013 13:29:24 GMT -5
I don't understand why you think Undinism are even a little bit goregrind, though. Where is this coming from? Is it because they used a picture of a headless corpse for the cover of their Gonkulator split? None of their songs or lyrics are about death or gore. Their vocals aren't shifted and don't gurgle at all and with the exception on the Gonk split, their artwork has nothing to do with gore. They were a sleazy grindcore band that wrote "offensive" lyrics. That's it. They're no more goregrind than Meat Shits were.
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Post by grinchx on Jul 6, 2013 15:58:00 GMT -5
Is it because they used a picture of a headless corpse for the cover of their Gonkulator split? Corpses on covers of squash bowels split and dead girls... cassette, neil drenched in fake blood on booklet of collection cd. Their vocals aren't shifted and don't gurgle at all this has never been an obligation in any genre ever except maybe cyber stuff on myspace. None of their songs or lyrics are about death or gore. you specifically listed only pornographic song titles that reinforce your bias. forgot to mention liquid blister, bones of chalk, vomitose, bleeding cock stump, etc. all of which are explicitly gory titles.
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Goregrind
Jul 6, 2013 16:18:56 GMT -5
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Post by mortvillenoise on Jul 6, 2013 16:18:56 GMT -5
What makes you think that was fake blood on Neil's face?
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Post by grinchx on Jul 6, 2013 16:32:05 GMT -5
cause there is so much of it, but maybe hes the next abdullah the butcher! who runs a ribs & chinese food restaurant in atlanta btw, still need to make a trip up one afternoon....
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Goregrind
Jul 6, 2013 17:01:34 GMT -5
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Post by mortvillenoise on Jul 6, 2013 17:01:34 GMT -5
If you ever met Neil and saw what shape his forehead was in, you'd know it was real. You should read the notes in the booklet of that Rupture gig I put up last week.
Undinism asked me to release that discography CD of theirs, but I wasn't in a position to do so at the time. One of my biggest label regrets...
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Post by grinchx on Jul 6, 2013 17:22:12 GMT -5
i have a buddy that does occasional self-blading for his bands, supposedly once you have scar tissue it gets easier to draw mass quantities of blood. he uses a fork though so i guess it would be more like brodying. that cd is pretty nuts, i was definitely convinced.
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Post by Torch the Mall on Jul 6, 2013 17:50:22 GMT -5
Requesting evidence of Neil's forehead... I'll agree with Andy (as if I haven't already) that Undinism don't have enough in their lyrics or sound to constitute being a goregrind band. There are ZERO music links on this page before this post so I'll throw something up here: parazitozis.bandcamp.com/
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Post by deadallman on Jul 6, 2013 18:24:57 GMT -5
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Post by conscience on Jul 6, 2013 22:24:02 GMT -5
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Post by marcoxzas on Jul 7, 2013 12:13:05 GMT -5
I agree with Andy that UNDINISM is not a goregrind band, I think is a grindcore band with "bad attitude" with some stupid homophobic lirics. Great music and stupid attitude.About ULCERRHOEA i consider early stuff grindgore and later stuff grindcore. Like MALIGNANT TUMOUR have an evoltution, M.T. start as pathological goregrind, after play grind/mincecore and now crust'n'roll.
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Post by furshlunger on Jul 17, 2013 18:06:15 GMT -5
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Post by Torch the Mall on Jul 22, 2013 22:50:55 GMT -5
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