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Post by olegrinder on Feb 11, 2010 0:42:13 GMT -5
No worries. I like that split w/ Shitstorm the best cuz it's straight up grind. I just find it interesting what people like and dislike about bands or music. Magrudergrind is a band I heard for the first time fairly recently, not a long time or local fave, so I'm not all that bothered by a big change in sound. I even welcome it cuz it's a sound I like. I am going to google up some line ups tho, I still wonder if it's a different guitarist from Rehashed.
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Post by thelampincident on Feb 11, 2010 6:22:52 GMT -5
The first time I saw MG, that split was their newest release and Mough was in the band, so there's my guess.
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Post by swilliam on Feb 11, 2010 7:52:21 GMT -5
I just checked the liner notes, and Mough played on Rehashed and RJ is on the s/t LP to answer your question.
I do too, and I spend a lot of time thinking about it. The way I see it, what I call someone's "base interest" determines what they like and don't like. The base interest consists of influential bands, guaranteed fallback choices when you're tired of everything else, and all-time favorites. If newer bands aren't in line with your base interest, then you're likely to be less interested in them.
My love of grindcore came from my base interest of UK Hardcore. Napalm Death did everything perfectly from the first demos until the early 90s. on the hatred surge and FETO demos, you can really hear the UK peacepunk/anarchopunk influences really strongly, and it's perfect! later on, as the anarco peacepunk bands like antisect started to mix in a more metal sound, so did napalm. somewhere after harmony corruption/mass appeal madness, they lost me because they strayed too far from the other UK crust/punk stuff, and any other grind band that does the same loses me too for the most part.
powerviolence on the other hand, I see as an extension of US hardcore, which I consider to be a piece of shit. for the most part, powerviolence sounds like US hardcore with the "verse" parts sped up to a blast beat, or nearly a blast beat. rearranging mosh riffs into sludgier mosh riffs still sounds the same to me. so bands that mix grind and powerviolence bum me out real hard.
it's morning so my brain is working really well, but I may be lacking in articulation. have fun reading this pile of shit!
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Post by ToLiveALie on Feb 11, 2010 10:19:51 GMT -5
Powerviolence/fastcore to me reminds me of The Neos, Larm, and Youth Korps.. who were all hardcore bands for the most part, but were amazing and original for the time. Some new pv bands are completely trite and worthless these days but there are so many good bands to make up for it.
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Post by thelampincident on Feb 11, 2010 11:06:48 GMT -5
Saying just US hardcore isn't very specific either. Boston isn't like DC which isn't like LA. Powerviolence can evolve from multiple sounds even just in this country.
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Post by olegrinder on Feb 11, 2010 11:33:42 GMT -5
...If newer bands aren't in line with your base interest, then you're likely to be less interested in them... My love of grindcore came from my base interest of UK Hardcore. Napalm Death did everything perfectly from the first demos until the early 90s... ...they lost me because they strayed too far from the other UK crust/punk stuff, and any other grind band that does the same loses me too for the most part. powerviolence on the other hand, I see as an extension of US hardcore, which I consider to be a piece of shit. for the most part, powerviolence sounds like US hardcore with the "verse" parts sped up to a blast beat, or nearly a blast beat... Makes sense to me. My base is huge, just from growing up around a lot of different music, and living through so many stages of the underground scene. Jazz, blues, rockabilly, rock n roll, soul, punk, new wave, hard rock, metal, hardcore, grind... I like at least bits of all of it and a lot of subgenres. I'm only 'good' at playing hardcore-pv-grind tho. I was the odd guy out back when Scum was released. Loved me some Heresy and ENT, but I thought Scum was total garbage. (And said so in my zine and started a whirlwind of letter writing - tho I do love the early ND Peel Sessions) Never liked any of the UK peace punk bands until grind and crust influences crept in. Well, Rudi Peni, but I don't think they count as a peace punk band. To me, powerviolence is more an extension of the sound of Earache grindcore and speedcore-crossover, but usually stripped of all the metal attitude that things have to be full on heavy - like lyrics, song titles, etc. (like with goofball song titles, in jokes, funny or creepy samples, etc.) And I like that bands experiment - even faster, even slower, even in the same song. I'd agree with you about pv sounding like US hXc - if you change the word to thrash. PV bands don't sound like Black Flag and Husker Du and Minor Threat. They sound like DRI. Only more EXTREME!
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Post by swilliam on Feb 11, 2010 15:52:16 GMT -5
Generally I agree with you. I could argue semantics, but that's usually a fucking waste of time.
I don't love scum, but it's got some cool riffs. I do however take FETO as the blueprint for what I compare all grind against.
Also, I'm not saying that UK Hardcore/Crust is my ONLY base, just when it comes to punk and related genres etc. I like plenty of stuff that falls outside of that, but to me that is a separate interest.
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Post by monollectif on Feb 20, 2010 14:22:46 GMT -5
rotten sound - consume to contaminate rotten sound - exit last days of humanity - Hymns of Indigestible Suppuration machetazo - ultratumba
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Post by olegrinder on Feb 21, 2010 13:19:42 GMT -5
Suffering Mind - At War With Mankind Immolation - Majesty & Decay Neurosis - Word As Law Brimstone Howl - We Came In Peace In Disgust - San Jose Oldies, Vol. I Protestant - The Hate. The Hollow.
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Post by swilliam on Feb 22, 2010 21:55:05 GMT -5
ripcord- defiance of power Earslaugter- ENT/ Chaos UK split (mp3s not cool) xysma- swarming of the maggots flux of pink indians just a few songs antisect- in darkness there is no choice
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Post by ryan on Feb 24, 2010 15:19:39 GMT -5
Midnight - Farewell to Hell Parlamentarisk Sodomi - De Anarkistiske An(n)aler Population Reduction 50/50 - s/t
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Post by monollectif on Feb 24, 2010 16:14:29 GMT -5
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Post by thelampincident on Mar 1, 2010 22:04:01 GMT -5
Went digging through the 7" stack tonight...
Rat Byte - s/t and split with Concrete Facelift 50/50 s/t Sayyadina - Solace Denied Otophobia/Reason of Insanity split Gate - Soon to be Sodomized
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Post by swilliam on Mar 1, 2010 22:13:14 GMT -5
How's that sayyadina 7"?
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Post by thelampincident on Mar 1, 2010 22:18:51 GMT -5
It's fucking awesome. I love old Sayyadina, they are fast as shit and it's more raw in sound and style than what they're putting out lately. Guitar tone might be too thin for your liking but I'd say give it a listen anyway. They definitely stick to blasting rather than being eclectic with their song setup so it may actually be something you dig.
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Post by 13yearsofcarrion on Mar 1, 2010 22:53:34 GMT -5
Lately:
AnB~Honky Reduction and FCSWD Misery~Early Years CD Panzerbastard~Boston demo 7 inch Cold Northern Vengeance~The Arising Dungeon Cult CD Pillcrusher~Medicine Cabinet Blues demo CD Straight Ahead~random songs I dled from the online Oi! The singles collection vol 1-4
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Post by thelampincident on Mar 1, 2010 22:56:05 GMT -5
Weird to see Panzerbastard and CNV mentions on here, it's like I'm posting on Return to the Pit!
I also put in: Direct Control s/t 7" Hatred Surge/Insect Warfare split 7"
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Post by ryan on Mar 2, 2010 8:00:03 GMT -5
Midnight - Farewell to Hell Nunslaughter - Goat Napalm Death - FETO / Peel Sessions
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Post by olegrinder on Mar 2, 2010 14:08:52 GMT -5
road trippin' playlist;
Pombagira - the crooked path Electric Wizard - Dopethrone Insect Warfare - Asra - Wormrot - Magrudergrind - Gate - ENT playlist I made for my 'pod The Briefs - sex objects Insanity Reigns Supreme new wave - power pop - punk rock playlist I made
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Post by swilliam on Mar 2, 2010 15:42:23 GMT -5
Dude, tell me about Insanity Reigns Supreme. They have an album called Prophecy of Doom. do they fucking sound like Prophecy of Doom or are they just hacks that stole the song title for their name, and then named their album after the band they stole everything from?
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Post by swilliam on Mar 2, 2010 17:31:10 GMT -5
zep II motorhead- no sleep til hammersmith
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Post by thelampincident on Mar 2, 2010 18:05:53 GMT -5
I listened to the Soul Swallower 7" and promptly passed out.
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Post by olegrinder on Mar 2, 2010 22:08:19 GMT -5
Dude, tell me about Insanity Reigns Supreme. They have an album called Prophecy of Doom. do they fucking sound like Prophecy of Doom or are they just hacks that stole the song title for their name, and then named their album after the band they stole everything from? It's kinda grows-on-you death metal. It's pretty generic - trying to be epic doom death without being all Moss-ed out, or leaning to brutal death. My old bandmate that went amp roadtrippin' with me liked it well enough to listen to the whole release. It was just one of those 'DL 20 metal discs, delete 19 of them' DL's that made the listening cut for a couple weeks. Ringing endorsement, that.
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Post by swilliam on Mar 2, 2010 22:33:33 GMT -5
so they have nothing to do with Prophecy of Doom?
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Post by olegrinder on Mar 2, 2010 22:43:22 GMT -5
I don't think so. But it wasn't good enough for me to look up their facerspace page or anything. The UK PoD seems to be a lot better - less generic, more full sounding...
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